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Bradbury, Brown to start against Argentina

Fraser Brown - pic © Al Ross/Novantae Photography
Fraser Brown - pic © Al Ross/Novantae Photography

Vern Cotter has named a strong side to face Argentina at Murrayfield on Saturday evening.

The backs are unchanged saved for Tommy Seymour who sat out the last one for personal reasons, so Tim Visser drops to the bench.

Up front, Ross Ford has had his 100 caps so Fraser Brown moves up a step to see what he can offer while Ford waits on the bench. Concussion forces Richie Gray’s withdrawl so what is probably Vern’s ideal pairing of his admired Gilchrist and Jonny Gray gets a first start together in the boilerhouse.

In the back row, John Barclay moves to Number 8 and Magnus Bradbury is handed the start at blindside ahead of Cornell du Preez. It has been announced that John Hardie will be out for up to 8 weeks with an ankle sprain – he has already had the operation on it.

On the bench depth is boosted by the changes to the main XV but Ryan Wilson, rather than du Preez, covers the back row and Alex Allan adds further youth to the propping contingent ahead of Gordon Reid who misses out entirely.

Scotland team to play Argentina at BT Murrayfield in the Autumn Tests
This Saturday (19 November, kick-off 5pm) – live on BBC

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 46 caps; 11 tries, 3 pens, 64 points

14 Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 24 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
13 Huw Jones (Stormers) – 2 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) – 17 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
11 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 29 caps; 13 tries, 65 points

10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps; 2 tries, 3 cons, 1 pen, 19 points
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester) – 54 caps; 4 tries, 68 cons, 129 pens, 543 points

1 Allan Dell (Edinburgh Rugby) – 1 cap
2 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 18 caps
3 Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
4 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 13 caps; 1 try, 5 points
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 26 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
6 Magnus Bradbury (Edinburgh Rugby) – uncapped
7 Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 3 caps
8 John Barclay (Scarlets) – 53 caps; 4 tries, 20 points

16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 100 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17 Alex Allan (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
18 Moray Low (Exeter Chiefs) – 35 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
20 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 21 caps
21 Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – uncapped
22 Pete Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 21 caps; 2 tries, 1 con, 1 pen, 15 points
23 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 27 caps; 11 tries, 55 points

Unavailable through injury: Alasdair Dickinson (hamstring), Richie Gray (possible concussion), John Hardie (ankle/knee/concussion), Josh Strauss (calf).

UPDATE: Here’s the Argentina team:

26 Responses

  1. Good team, pity that Richie Gray didn’t clear the HIA protocols but Gilchrist will be a decent stand in. Happy that Brown is given a start and will be interesting to see if Bradbury can make the step up to International level.

  2. I really like the look of this team. Close to full strength. Just missing Gray snr WP Nel, Dickinson and Taylor. Looks really, really good. Very please Bradbury is on the starting line up and also pleased that Price is in over Pygros.

  3. This must be the fewest caps first 15 that any of the major nations has picked this November, wonder if it sets some kind of record? Maybe even one of the youngest.

  4. I think Bennet deserved a look even on the bench but probably Horne takes the space due to flexibility. What does Bennet lack in the coaches eyes?

    1. Think you answered your own question there. Dunbar is nailed on, as is Jones after his performance last week, and Horne is a capable utility back. Bennett could’ve perhaps snuck in over Visser as wing cover though. Tim was his usual powder puff in defence against Aus, and he was surprisingly poor in attack too I felt.

      1. Visser has had his day I think, was shocking for both tries against oz. For the first he should havemade much more of an effort to tackle hodge, as mentioned in by another post, the worst you can do in a 2v1 is not to take out one of them. For the second he is about a meter away and not even watching when I feel he should have at least made some effort to held hold up or block the touch down.

        Very excited by this team, glad to see Brown and Bradbury start. As for the centers, Bennet has not been quite up to speed this season so far, no doubt down to the extended training camp for the 7s. Dunbar deserves to be there, Jones could not possibly be dropped after his form for thee last few months. Cant wait for the match, hoping its a similar one to two years ago

  5. Great looking team if the front row can stand up to the Pumas. Good call selecting Bradbury over CdP. CdP is not back to his best yet, whereas Bradbury, along with Watson, has the best form across the board.

  6. This starting XV continues the baptism of fire for our young props. They did pretty well v Oz and I hope they can take that level of performance into another, possibly tougher, scrum time examination.
    Pleased to see Gilchrist given a start. Even out of position last week, he put in a serious shift and and was impressive.
    Like one or two others, I’m a bit puzzled at the complete omission of Bennett. There have to be good reasons I suppose but it’s disappointing nonetheless.

  7. Good team, perhaps a bit green but largely enforced by injuries and it builds nice depth for the seasons to come. I felt we’d beat one of Aus and Arg before the AIs started, and I’m confident that will still happen. Scotland by 5

  8. This looks like a good team based on form.
    Bennett is not back to his best yet and I am not sure he has the pace for wing, Taylor would have been a better fit to cover 13/14/11.

  9. I wonder if BVC’s gameplan is to tire the big Argentine pack out as our pack is very mobile although I fear we will struggle at scrum time. I hope that Bradbury comes to the fore as he has been in great form for Edinburgh.

    I also hope that with Seymour back on the wing that we might be a bit more competitive at restarts.

    1. Argentina’s pack is incredibly athletic and mobile. Their style is probably the most unstructured and loose of any of the tier 1 nations. I think we have a mobile pack because we also excel when we play the game at pace, but it certainly won’t be to take advantage of any weakness or counteract any strength of the Pumas’.

      1. Further negated by the fact that every international prop has at least 60 mins of running in them these days and the benches empty between 50-60 mins.

  10. With Brown, Barclay, Watson & Dunbar the potential is there to secure turnover ball & for Russell Jones Hogg & Seymour getting subsequent turned over ball in broken play.

    Agree with FF re Argentina’s style, it “should” suit Scotland.

    I’d have had Du Preez on the bench for the last 25mins

  11. I worry a bit for the front row but they should be rampant in the loose and you couldn’t have put more grunt behind them in the second row. Perfect balance in that backrow for me as well.

  12. Having watched the borefest last week between the sheep worriers and Argentina they played a pretty straightforward game. They don’t look to have much pace but are all big lads so first up tackling will be key. Their backs arent anywhere near as sharp as Australia but their forwards will be very aggressive carriers and at rucks. The maul will be a big weapon for them as ever and we should probs try to avoid scrums and just keep running hard, straight and fast. Play like last week and we will win. Drop the intensity and we’ll get overpowered

    1. They were v poor last week but if you saw Argentina’s performances in the RWC (particularly their QF thrashing of Ireland) or rugby championship you’d know how wide of the mark that assessment is – their strategy is to keep the ball alive at all costs, offload everything and attack in the wide channels as early as possible, and they have the athletic forwards to execute that game plan. I hope they turn up on Sat looking as jaded as last week because there is a reason they’ve notched up victories against Aus, SA and Ireland in the last 18 months.

      I do think this is a game we can an should win, but Argentina are being underestimated by a lot f Scottish fans this week IMO

      1. Spot on. Their back three in the World Cup was phenomenal (Tuculet, Cordero, Imhoff) and until they ran out of steam I thought they played the best brand of rugby bar none – and not a million miles from what Vern is trying to achieve with Scotland. Could be a great game, same as last weekend (but with a different result let’s hope).

    2. Another week in the UK, probably feeling bit more settled and less fatigued, I’d imagine they will come at us with their full sails blowing approach they bring to the Rugby Championship.

  13. FF, that is a very astute assessment! Having watched some of their matches in the Rugby Championship, I became aware of how inventive their game has become under their present coach. I was really surprised and disappointed at how lacklustre their performance against Wales was. I think Scotland should expect a very different Argentina at Murrayfield. At their best, both sides play a similar exciting and imaginative style of rugby.

  14. Good to see the team stats Rory…. The wing choices make interesting reading:

    Seymour 29 caps and 13 Tries
    Visser 27 Caps and 11 Tries
    Maitland 24 Caps and 3 Tries

    Will SM score 8 Tries in three matches to match Visser or 10 in 5 matches to match Symour?

    Maitland 24 Caps and 3 Tries
    Jonny Gray 26 caps and 2 Tries
    Grant Gichrist 13 caps 1 Try

    Will Jonny get 1 or Gilchrist get 2 tries in his next 10 caps to equal Maitland ?

    You cannot argue with the facts and while past performance is no guarantee of the future…. it paint a picture.

  15. I’d imagine Maitland is in for his defence over Visser. I remember a few times he has put in a decent try saving tackle. But I have no idea how someone as big as Visser can’t be coached to tackle properly. I remember two year’s ago watching what was the best Scotland game in terms of comfortableness. We had won the game by 30 mins even though we gave it a good go throwing it a way.

    Questions about Hogg. I’m not sure he has scored a try for a while. When was his last one? Is he now a guaranteed starter even if he is quiet for a few games? Can anyone tell me from a more subtle point of view what it is that is so crucial to the team and why he is so valuable? Be great to see him on the try sheet tomorrow. Deserves it.

  16. Referendum,

    Is that the 6N Player of the Year 2015 you are questioning?

    Hogg is absolutely tremendous.

    Perhaps @ 0222am you were needing yir bed?

    Bulldog, interesting re Maitland, when he arrived he looked top notch but since then has flattered to deceive, paucity of options necessitate his inclusion

    Re team “only” Nel, Dickinson, J.Gray, Hardie, Du Preez, Taylor, Bennett, Strauss to return.

  17. Apparently Maitland has been tearing it up down south but I have not seen English league rugby.

    I really wasn’t questioning his ability. I’d just love him to score some more tries to cement how dangerous he is. But I’m interested in people who know more about the game what things he does that are brilliant that perhaps the uneducated eye wouldn’t see?


  18. Get Hogg on the ball & he is perhaps the most exciting Scottish player ever (certainly the best I’ve seen in my 30+ year Murrayfield going years).

    I like Maitland but he’s disappointed me when he’s played for Scotland

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