Weekend Teams: Dunbar, Seymour, Hogg return for final European pool game

Glasgow will end their European campaign at home to Exeter with an unsatisfied whimper rather than the bangs we had expected under Dave Rennie, who it could be said is taking a little longer to bed in at Scotstoun. It has also been interesting that under Jason O’Halloran, Scotland offloaded actually very little but Glasgow do not seem to have curbed their enthusiasm as much since he moved there. We may not see the true nature of Rennie’s Warriors until he’s had a bit more of a say in recruitment for next season, but Callum Gibbins probably epitomises his intended hard-nosed approach and Glasgow haven’t been as effective since his injury earlier in the season.

With injuries in mind, there are last-minute recalls for a number of big names hoping to play in the Six Nations and find some sharpness. But if you’re a Scotland fan, the sight of large chunks of the international backline playing in a meaningless game the week before the Six Nations training camp could set the heart fluttering slightly.

Tommy Seymour hitting good form would, of course, be brilliant, as would some sign that Stuart Hogg has shaken off his injuries. Then get him off! Alex Dunbar, like the other three, will also play his first game of the year.

The Scotstoun faithful will share fewer of these concerns and demand a win. That’s possibly why Rennie has beefed up the team that got hammered by Leinster last weekend with Jonny Gray and all those backs this week. Having done a solid job against Tadgh Furlong last weekend, Jamie Bhatti could be the one to watch.

Glasgow: 15. Stuart Hogg, 14. Tommy Seymour, 13. Huw Jones, 12. Alex Dunbar, 11. Leonardo Sarto, 10. Finn Russell, 9. George Horne; 1. Jamie Bhatti, 2. George Turner, 3. Siua Halanukonuka, 4. Rob Harley, 5. Jonny Gray (Capt), 6. Matt Fagerson, 7. Matt Smith, 8. Adam Ashe.
Replacements: 16. Grant Stewart, 17. Alex Allan, 18. D’Arcy Rae, 19. Greg Peterson, 20. Chris Fusaro, 21. Ali Price, 22. Peter Horne, 23. Lee Jones.

Exeter Chiefs: Phil Dollman; Lachlan Turner, Henry Slade, Ian Whitten, Olly Woodburn; Gareth Steenson (c), Nic White; Ben Moon, Luke Cowan-Dickie, Harry Williams, Mitch Lees, Jonny Hill, Dave Ewers, Don Armand, Sam Simmonds
Replacements: Elvis Taione, Moray Low, Tom Francis, Toby Salmon, Matt Kvesic, Will Chudley, Joe Simmonds, Tom Gilbert-Hendrickson

Live on BT Sport, kick-off 1pm

Edinburgh will have a home quarter-final in the Challenge Cup but even then there is no way to guarantee a home semi. So far it is a job very well done and for some players, and thoughts will turn to the Six Nations. While Glasgow need some of their big names back fit and match sharp, for the Edinburgh lads this is the last chance to pick up a soul-destroying injury, if you are a glass half-empty sort! But a good performance in Paris would do players and the club no end of good going into the break.

With that in mind, Stuart McInally, Hamish Watson and Ben Toolis are rested while Murray McCallum and Cornell du Preez still have work to do before they join up with Scotland. John Hardie will make his long awaited return but not for Edinburgh – he’ll be turning out for Hawick this weekend. Maybe Gary Armstrong will roll up there too.

Blair Kinghorn and Mark Bennett will be the first Edinburgh backs in a while with a chance of getting a start for Scotland – although Phil Burleigh picked up a cap from the bench in the autumn. Kinghorn has been rested which gives Darcy Graham a good chance to show what he can do, but Bennett will welcome more game time; he starts.

Glenn Bryce and Sean Kennedy have been attached to the Sevens squad while Cockers continues to hold Dougie Fife and James Johnstone hostage at Myreside. They’re on the bench, if anyone is looking for them.

Edinburgh: 15 Darcy Graham, 14 Damien Hoyland, 13 Mark Bennett, 12 Junior Rasolea, 11 Duhan van der Merwe, 10 Jaco van der Walt, 9 Nathan Fowles; 1 Rory Sutherland, 2 Cameron Fenton, 3 Murray McCallum, 4 Fraser McKenzie (Capt), 5 Lewis Carmichael, 6 Magnus Bradbury, 7 Jamie Ritchie, 8 Cornell Du Preez
Replacements: 16 Neil Cochrane, 17 Kevin Bryce, 18 Matt Shields, 19 Grant Gilchrist, 20 Viliame Mata, 21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne, 22 James Johnstone, 23 Dougie Fife

This one, despite having little at stake, is first on the TV, with coverage via BT Sport. Kick-off 9pm French, 8pm GMT.

UPDATE: other Scotland players/exiles in action this weekend: Not too many exiles in the Challenge Cup (no Denton, Reid, Welsh, Lawson, Harris, McGuigan, or R Gray) but Tim Visser, John Barclay and Mitch Eadie start in the Champions Cup while Sean Maitland is on the bench for Saracens and Greig Laidlaw is on the bench for Clermont.

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83 comments on “Weekend Teams: Dunbar, Seymour, Hogg return for final European pool game

  1. TeamCam on

    I’m actually looking forward to the Exeter game now, and am upset that I’ll miss watching Edinburgh playing this weekend.

    Although Exeter will be highly motivated as they’ve actually got something to play for, Glasgow have put out a side that, Harley aside, should win. Great to see Sarto back and hopefully a less injured Seymour will rediscover some of his wit. Shame that Niko’s injured, hopefully it’s just a niggle as Warriors are already looking pretty short-handed during the 6N! Good to see Jacko finally get a rest, too!

    I’m really interested to see how Graham and Bennett play against SF, too. Hoping for some pyrotechnics behind a pretty damn solid pack.

    Right, now that I’ve said all that both teams will lose and incur many injuries to key players…

  2. Neil on

    Great backs poor forwards. We know what exeter going to do and they will win due to it most likely.
    All recruitment should be on forwards next season, we need a monster backrow and front row.
    only 1 good 10 if can find for cheap.

    • Sean on

      I was thinking this on the way to the train. Front row – not sure, depends on whether the nuke and Kebble settle in. Think we are a hooker short. I say this because of Turner’s scrummaging.

      Probably need an international class second row – I rate Gray,Swinson and Cummings but at top level a grizzled enforcer type is required for Glasgow.

      Back row – Gibbons,Wilson and Ashe was probably first choice and all three have been injured. Hardie and a ball carrying 8 (Vunisa may prove to be the man but has been poor).

      In terms of priorities:

      8,
      2nd row,
      Hooker,
      another back rower (Hardie?)

      I think we would then be in a better position to compete. I know he is oft criticised but Pete Horne may well be the man in possession of the 10 shirt next year. If Hastings is good enough he will usurp him.

      • Stuart on

        Hardie makes sense.

        Next season Edinburgh have Barclay, Watson, Bradbury, Ritchie, Mata and Crosbie under contract. That surely means at least one of Du Preez and Hardie will leave, possibly both. Linking up with Rennie and Gibbons might be exactly what Hardie needs.

  3. The Chiel on

    I think Glasgow and particularly Rennie, aren’t as bad as is being made out. That is one hell of a group, and only Leinster at Scotstoun have shown themselves to be substantially better. Thumped in the return of course, but a much reduced team and ambition.

    This Exeter game will be a real test of whether Glasgow have enough grunt.

    • Sean on

      Agreed. Tough group. Heading towards league play offs and back into Europe next season so not really a disaster, although it has been frustrating to watch.

      Perhaps Rennie’s lack of player knowledge has been the problem and something he can hopefully fix in year 2.

      My view is that we are thin in the pack as I have said above and this perhaps means Price and Russell go wide so early as a lack of grunt.

      Again I have said this before but Strauss and Paufisi have been badly missed, Swinson, Wilson, Gibbons, Brown have hardly played and the two scrummaging props brought in were injured/haven’t hit the straps. The Nuke came straight from a full league season- maybe needs a summer’s rest. Probably similar to Huw Jones (briefly, he should be given the summer off I think to be ready for early games in Europe next year).

  4. pragmatic optomist on

    This imo is the best back line Glasgow have. (Might have preferred Bennett to Dunbar, for a serious ‘impact player’ after 50 mins) Shame that 4 of them are returning from injuries and will be a bit rusty. On top form I’d rather have them than anything Leinster can offer. (even if I do rate Ringrose and Larmour very highly)

  5. JohnMc on

    I like Exeter. A well run club with a couple of players questionably overlooked by Eddie Jones. Having said that, even though it’s a totally dead rubber for Warriors, I’d still like to see Glasgow beat them.

      • TeamCam on

        Does at least show that Warriors can play – that was probably their best game of the season, and with a largely second-choice pack. More of that, please, DR (but with fewer tries conceded, if possible)!

  6. Ade on

    Would it be better for Edinburgh to lose this game? With Newcastle, Glaws/Pau and Connacht all capable of posting a higher points total if SF win, Edinburgh would be seeded 4th, and in all likelihood playing Cardiff. If the seedings went to form they would then get a home semi if I have understood it right (I’m probably wrong – feel free to correct me)

    Surely this would be a better route to progression than either Bordeaux, Worcester, SF or Gloucester (Pau winning by 10 as I type). I’m sure Cockerill will want the momentum a win would bring, but it might work well if they don’t.

    As for Glasgow – I’m gutted that they haven’t fired in Europe this year. An almost perfect record in the league shows that they have been playing well, but unfortunately seemed to lack grunt against the hefty packs in their pool. I think that the squad selected can give Exeter a game, and with 6N spots on the line a win is more than possible.

  7. Not rocket science on

    Frustrated for Glasgow in Europe this season. But at least it means there aren’t over worked players going into the 6 nations.

  8. JP on

    What a luxury being able to give our international backline a run out against one of the top 5 or 6 clubs on earth.

    • Sotonsaltire on

      Don’t think they are one of the top 5 or 6 club teams in the world. They didn’t make the qfs of the European cup and sure there are a few Kiwi super rugby sides that are better than them.

      I do agree though, great to get a run out for the backs.

  9. Sean on

    Anyone lobbying for Seymour not to start in Cardiff after today? Him and Hogg are one of the best full back/wing combinations in the world when they are fit.

    Huw Jones was anonymous and produced the worst tackle stats I’ve ever seen. Tackles made 11, tackles missed 9.

    Could Bennett be the bolter for Cardiff? Probably not as Jones has been much better for Scotland than he has for Glasgow so far. As I have said before, maybe needs a rest after Currie cup and autumn internationals.

    From the east stand Gray was my man of the match but good to see Fagerson Jnr have a good game.

    G Horne also good although I would have said Price’s pass looks crisper when he came on. Perhaps why Horne is not yet in the Scotland squad (interested to get some comment on this from someone who is more knowledgeable than me)? He was very good today.

    • Fraser on

      Huw Jones had a poor game – in previous Glasgow games he has been doing a lot of good linking work, as well as the odd try, so I think a lot of the criticism has been very harsh, but today he wasn’t good enough. He has been playing an awful lot of rugby though – presume the plan was to get him familiar with things as quickly as possible but he needs a break.

      After watching that performance, I am even more amazed G.Horne isn’t even training with Scotland. I agree Laidlaw will probably be on the bench to close out games, but Pyrgos and Fowles are nowhere near the quality of Horne.

      Seymour had a good game. If he was genuinely carrying an injury in his last few games then fair enough. He still isn’t as nailed on as he used to be after 1 decent performance though. His familiarity with the rest of the back line – especially how he links with Hogg – is a big plus.

      Hogg looked class on his first game back.

      • Mikelinds on

        I am surprised that you folk are surprised about Huw Jones. He is, at the moment, what he is. A player brought up on Super xx (seeing they never can make their minds up), brilliant with ball in hand, less good at defensive duties. Give him a bit of space, and a few months off, and a few words of wisdom, then we might just have the best of all our centres. Right now, if fit I think that’s Taylor. Unfortunately as said elsewhere, like FB he seems to have had more than his fair share of head knocks.

        Luckily we have a fair stock, not like the days when we prayed for certain journeymen to be fit.

    • Bulldog on

      Jones held Whitten up to prevent the try, that is the kind of moment that can turn a 6N game. Good to see Glasgow running from their own try line.

      • Bulldog on

        I knew that, but he stayed with it and that is what you want from key players. Stuart Hogg used to miss loads of tackles in his early days. However I can see where this is going long before Huw Jones arrival.

        Huw Jones will not do well at Glasgow. He will not fit in. I have hinted it, but now you have it in plain english.

        He could have qualified for England , and lived in S Africa for 4 years but has committed himself to Glasgow and Scotland.

  10. 1.8T on

    Didn’t see the game but if Seymour had a good game then good for him. It has to be said he does have a good partnership with Hogg so if they are firing then it’s a force to be reckoned with.

    I’ve said for a while that I haven’t seen evidence to back up all the fuss about Jones, but he has been good any time he has played for Scotland, think it’s a bit early to be thinking about Bennett starting he has only played a couple of games since injury hasn’t he?

    Will be good for a few of the guys going into the 6N on the back of a confidence restoring win.

    • Sotonsaltire on

      If you are looking for Jones’ virtues, watch the Currie Cup final – man of the match, and two tries.

  11. Lochinverboy on

    Just back from the Scotstoun fridge. My goodness, what a performance. No helter skelter fantasy rugby that was our undooing in other matches. Brilliant defence in the first half. But these guys are maturing. The confidence, assurance and running lines of our backs is a joy to behold and they are better because they have that experience. No club or national team in our hemisphere would cope with that creative onslaught. Gregor’s main objective is obvious, pick a team that gives these backs a platform. A big ask in the forward driven context that is the 6N. That said, savour the moment. Exeter were like schoolkids chasing shadows today. The English champions. It would be perverse for a nation, renowned for it’s forward grunt these past 15 years and starved of blistering backs to enter the 6N tournament perceived as being light up front. Only a Scot could suffer that. In Toonie we trust.

  12. Big Al on

    I think the comments about Jones are fair. However, in the light of Dunbar picking up another injury I would expect it’ll be a Taylor / Jones centre pairing. I trust Toonie to get it right but it will be interesting to see how that goes. If Jones isn’t looking good in training then it will be Taylor / Bennett with Jones on the bench to cover a range of positions.

    Young Horne must be very close to an international call up. He’s pretty good at everything he does but his support lines & energy are exceptional.

    Looks like Seymour is back.

    • MK on

      Taylor wont play, suprised he was called up to be honest. Wasn’t in the Saracens squad today. I think hes a Fraser Brown, taken a few head knocks last year or so.

      • CptDnt on

        If Taylor isn’ playing and Dunbar is out then who are you going to pick? If the medics say Taylor can play then he will play.

      • MK on

        A few players have been selected for squads and then been pulled or just not deemed fit to play. I admit he must be close but from what i’ve heard from Sarries fans where I work he’s off to see (or has seen) specialists about his concussions, probably been in the squad depending he gets the all clear. Who to call up indeed. Phil Burleigh?

      • Big Al on

        Bit worried we might end up with a centre partnership that’s never played together in Wales. Will Tooney start with Horne at inside centre?

    • FF on

      How bad was Dunbar’s injury. I thought it was just a HIA. If he remained off for concussion two weeks would usually be another to recover and pass return to play protocols but some players in Glasgow forum were saying he’s out for the 6N. How bad was Turner?

  13. Busy Little Bee on

    Nothing in that match surprised me.

    Seymour will rightly start in Cardiff, Huw Jones is dodgy defensively and Pyrgos and Fowles getting called up ahead of wee Horne is a nonsense.

    A midfield of Taylor and Bennett would be fine by me.

  14. JohnMc on

    Good result for Glasgow today. Missing a few first choices in the pack yet still beating the Aviva reigning champions, who came up to Scotstoun with a real chance of making the knockout stage if they delivered, which they didn’t. Russell and Hogg were on good form, and it was good to watch Seymour remind us and himself of how good he can be.
    A decent shift from Edinburgh tonight too – well, second half anyway.

    Really hoping that the Dunbar and Turner injuries aren’t too serious. If Dunbar is out for the Wales game, and if Taylor is judged to be not ready to play in the first round of the 6N, then a Jones at 12, Bennett at 13 combination is a real possibility – and not one that would worry me because Bennett looks like his old self and Jones has proved he can play 12 at Currie Cup level.

    The whole Scotland back line has so much pace and skill and, given a decent percentage of possession, is capable of tearing sides apart in the 6N.

    • BigAl on

      Not convinced that Jones is as good defensively as he is going forward. Dunbar organises the defence in the backs well from 12. Not sure Jones is ready for that if he moves to inside centre. Hope Dunbar is back soon.

  15. Not rocket science on

    Utter nonsense. Jones is a special player and the third name on there team sheet. Jeez does no one remember his Scotland debut. The last 6 nations. Who was the only player that turned up for Calcutta Cup. The autumn tests. The Currie Cup. O Halloran says he’s never seen a center with such a complete skill set. The footage is there to back it up if any wants to watch it. A tired missed tackle after switching countries doesn’t change that.

    • Ben F on

      I know that, you know that, it is a surprise to me that there are still some out there who do not know that. Actually I am not but it reads better to say I am.

      The question is , how do the first 2 names on the team sheet feel about that!

    • TeamCam on

      His debut was a stodgy match against Japan. Not exactly enthralling! I agree about the abuse being unneccesary – he’s been brilliant for Scotland, I think he’s just adapting to Warriors. Next season I bet his critics will be eating their words.

    • BigAl on

      I think Jones is at his absolute best when Hogg and Russell are on the pitch and in form. Their movement terrified and confuses the hell out of defences and the system they play creates more space for Jones. Very often its Hogg that makes the line break and Jones supporting. I think it hasn’t worked at Glasgow because Hogg has been out much of the season.

      As for the chaos that was Twickenham last year. The tries that killed us were line breaks through the 12-13 channel off first phase ball. Dunbar had a nightmare but is usually good in defence. Jones escaped criticism for his defence then but doubts are growing. Eddie Jones spotting something and England clearly targeted that.

  16. Andy Slow on

    Any thoughts on the Exeter yellow card and penalty try? Quite a lot of moaning about the decision on other websites. Watching back on tv the arm is deliberately out in the channel of the pass for me. Just because he’s not looking doesn’t mean it wasn’t deliberate. Cute but not quite cute enough from White. Always nice to get these decisions every now and again.

    • Fraser on

      It was probably the correct call, but wouldn’t be given a lot of the time. Very likely knew exactly what he was doing, but difficult to prove. It’s just a small margin from a try saving tackle disrupting the pass to a 3 try game changing moment.

      • FF on

        I think a small number of Exeter fans are grasping at straws here – saw it on the BT Highlights. Commentators said “he knew what he was doing” but TMO couldn’t guess at intent (Barnes) and that is was a penalty but it a PT or YC (Nicol). All penalties for deliberate knock on the TMO has to infer the intent, it Looked very much like White swim his arm to block the pass, you don’t normally swing your arm like that to wrap and the tackle was half hearted as his target wasn’t the player with the ball. Once you give the penalty no real choice to give the PT and YC. May have been marginal but was nowhere near as controversial as lots of fans online have suggested – marginal calls are made every game. In this case Glasgow got the benefit of the doubt – though it has to be said the TMO and Poite weren’t really in any doubt.

  17. Andrew McGavin on

    Did anyone see Maitland’s try against Northampton? Seriously impressive acceleration to power smoothly away from covering defence. Reminded me of Andy Robinson’s description of him as a ‘Rolls Royce of a runner’ when he scored against Australia in November.

    It was encouraging as, like many others have said, he always looks classy but doesn’t necessarily show that powerful acceleration or impact running we’d love to see.

    • Pio on

      Looked like be was treading water in that Australia game. Was obviously playing with an injury. That try showed the kind of gas that he’s capable of. Good to see

      • Rosco on

        Terrific acceleration from Maitland for his try. Agreed that he wasn’t back to full fitness in Autumn. That turn off pace can only mean he’s in good condition and playing with confidence. Great weekend ahead of 6N.

  18. Andrew McGavin on

    And also congratulations to Scarlets on reaching the QFs.

    I guess there’s a soft spot for them because of Barclay, but they also play great rugby that’s stretching the very best teams – home and away. Having come from nowhere a few seasons ago, they’ve made huge strides, and deserve all their success.

  19. FF on

    I hope this game was Glasgow finally ‘getting’ how Rennie is asking them to play for him and next season we’ll see a much more competitive team in Europe.

    Shame Finn will be gone though – think he might struggle a bit at Racing.

  20. john on

    The absence of Gibbins & Hogg dealt a fatal blow to Glasgow’s European hopes, being in the same pool as the best teams in Ireland/England didn’t help either. Only seen the highlights of yesterdays game but it was commented upon that Russell kicked intelligently – if we are to beat the bigger teams we (Scotland) have to “put them” where we want them to play (inside their own 22

    • Frazer on

      I also think we’re missing Sam Johnson as he was in cracking form before his injury, but yeah, Gibbins is a cracking player.

  21. Fraser on

    From the Edinburgh game, they did well to come back into it after a couple of early tries – good character.
    I think it’s fair to say Darcy Graham isn’t a good option at fullback at the moment – amazing player but woeful defensive positioning. Bit small as well, better to keep him on the wing I think.

    Also, will be interesting to see if Biggars injury comes to anything – Wales without Biggar or Priestland would be nice….

    • Neil on

      That welsh backline is starting to look as drained as our front row. hopefully we can keep plenty of possession.

      • FF on

        Williams was withdrawn from Sarries game too – presumably something minor but he won’t have had a lot of rugby by Feb 3.

      • Daihard on

        Cymru will be available and ready , you are all far too confident now. The game is in Caerdydd and even the Crosskeys thirds would play to the death for Cymru . You lads should know how we play there. Williams will be ready to face Hogg. It is a big ask for any side to stand strong at Caerdydd. We look forward to the match.

      • TeamCam on

        I’d much rather play a full-strength Wales side than a cobbled together one:

        1) It’s a lot harder for people to write a victory off
        2) It means that Gatland and Howley can pick fewer of their favourite players and more of those who are in form
        3) It means those playing are ingrained in Howley’s ‘attack’ philosophy, whereas the likes a Dan Jones have escaped that thus far, and
        4) They seem to up their game as actual (rather than self-identified) underdogs, e.g. versus England in the RWC.

        Hoping to play a weakened team is a bit like hoping to avoid the All Blacks at the RWC: sure, you might win, but it’ll feel slightly hollow.

        Daihard (great name, BTW): Why do you mix Welsh with English? It looks weird…

  22. Neil on

    Honestly i expect us to put in a strong performance against Wales and outclass then by minimum 20 to 25 points. we are seriously so much better than this welsh team and should tear them to shreds.

    We beat them by around 15 points last six nations, we have gotten better and they have at best remained the same if not slipping down the pecking order. i would not be surprised if they are competing with Italy and France for the wooden spoon this year.

    When was the last time they were able to beat an expansive style of rugby such as from the AB’s or Australia ?

    They are poorly coached, have a ton of injuries like us (only we have developed a little bit of depth).

    All we need to do it stick to our gameplan, avoid scrumming, we can match them in the lineout, im excited to see Barclay and Watson destroy whatever backrow they bring out. Price and Russell will have alot of fun picking holes and controlling the territory.

    • Tony Steedman on

      If my son presented me with this attempt at grammar he would get six of the best with my baffy!
      And it’s a ‘tonne’. As in metric.
      In regard to the rugby we are playing in Cardiff. A tough ask. We can win but it won’t be easy.

      • James on

        Out of curiosity, why does it have to be ‘tonne’ rather than ‘ton’? As it’s just being used to signify a large quantity would either not work?

  23. James on

    I wouldn’t be writing Wales off too soon. Even with back row injuries a back row of Navidi, James Davis and Tuperic will be strong. Without Biggar the Scarlets 10 whose name I’ve forgotten is quality. Johnathon Davis is out but Parkes is playing really well. So they are going to be a good team. Where we might have the edge is on the bench.

    • Daihard on

      Good , they are better than just good. James Davies was named by Will Kelleher in the Mail today as one of the 6 stars on form for the Six Nations. Only Saracens qualified for the European Cup. You could beat Lloegr at home and open it right up. You are looking at the wrong game.

      • Mikelinds on

        With all due respect what the DM knows about rugby could be written on the back of a postage stamp. Any of the broadsheets, like them or not, are far more knowledgable.

  24. Neil on

    Anyone got a link to the full Glasgow vs Exeter match or the Stade vs Edin

    Been unable to find anything for it.

    • lairgboy on

      I watched the Edin v Stade game on you tube the other night. Not the best quality and no sound but watchable.

    • Mikelinds on

      Even the highlights of the Glasgow game would be good.

      As a LS follower, virtually all EC clubs have highlights on YouTube by the Tuesday following, some earlier. Disappointing we can’t match this fairly basic standard.

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