Month: January 2010

Good Luck Murray

No, not the Scotland shirt sponsor, or indeed Euan aka Murray Squared (Murray in a shirt saying Murray) or Moray Low aka Moray Cubed (Moray from Moray in a shirt that says Murray).

What I mean of course is good luck to Andy Murray in the Australian Open Tennis final which happens on Sunday at around 8am I think (for viewers in UK). No doubt if he wins they will try and find an excuse to parade him at Murrayfield during the upcoming Six Nations. So let’s hope so!

Premier 1 games this weekend

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Games on;

Stewart’s Melville – Heriot’s
at Inverleith (ko 3pm)

Glasgow Hawks – Edinburgh Accies 
at Old Anniesland (ko 3pm)

Dundee High – Boroughmuir
at Mayfield (ko 3pm)

West of Scotland – Currie
at Burnbrae (ko 3pm)

Selkirk – Ayr
at Philiphaugh (ko 3pm)

SRB Game of the Weekend: Melrose – Watsonians
at The Greenyards (ko 2.30pm)

Having lost convincinglyagainst Heriot’s last week the ‘Rose will be hoping to bounce back against a Watsonians side refreshed by their first home victory of the season. Both of these sides thrive when running into a broken field so the tactical awareness of Wight and Ker could prove pivotal. Melrose will be wanting to explode into the game from the start, while Watsons will most likely look to build a game. ‘Sonians have had difficulty killing off opponents this season and if Melrose edge in front they could hold on til the end of the game, regardless of ‘Sonians renewed belief. The loss of influencial line-out specialist Mark Rennie cannot help the Edinburgh side, either. Let’s hope this one builds to an exciting finish.

Players to watch: Melrose’s James King and Watsonians Jonny Pelter

SRU Survey

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Also just to complete my public service announcements for the week here are the details for any of you thinking about grabbing some last minute tickets for the France game next weekend, there are still approx 8,000 tickets available:

Tickets can be bought now – in person from the Murrayfield Ticket Centre, via the 24-hour hotline on 0844 335 3933 or online at www.scottishrugby.org (there are no ticket sales on match day).

EXTENDED TICKET CENTRE OPENING HOURS
The Murrayfield Ticket Centre opening hours are as follows:
25-29 January – 9am – 5pm
Sat 30 January – 10am – 4pm
Sun 31 January – CLOSED
1-5 February – 9am – 8pm
Sat 6 February – 10am – 5pm
Sun 7 February – 9 am onwards collections only

Bits and Bobs

Scott Gray has been called up to the Scotland squad to cover Rennie and the big Stroker who are still suffering from knocks. What, no Roddy Grant? Gray has been mostly on the bench this season so who knows if he is in the form that displaced John Barclay last year or not. Should get more chances now that Neil Best is moving to Worcester. Still, I reckon Roddy would have been a cheaper train fare for the SRU’s budget to stump up… from the BBC

Richie Gray is also sitting out training after being so omnipresent vs Biarritz that Jerome Thion had to punch him in the face to make him stop, breaking his nose in the process. A citing is on the way… from the Scotsman

Edinburgh MSP Sarah Boyack has hammered BBC Scotland over its unwillingness to cover Scottish rugby. Quite right too: now that Heather the Weather has gone Reporting Scotland is pish, unless there is rugby in the sports bit – and even then it’s only five seconds less pish. Who cares who Kilmarnock have just signed? Apart from Kilmarnockians, obviously. Write to your MSP/MP and tell them to get on the case, that you are a single issue voter, that issue is rugby and if they don’t sort it out they are fired in May… from the Scotsman.

I’ve also got a preview piece up on scrum.com 6 Nations fanzone. The drums in the jungle tell me Al may be working on the SRBlog version shortly…

Club International squad announced

The Scotland Club International 22-man squad has been announced for their game against France on the 5th of Feb. at Netherdale, Gala. Having lost narrowly 13-12 in the reverse fixture last season the team are hoping to do one better. Being only the second time these teams have met anything can happen and the Scottish Club team have never lost on home soil. With a 7.30 KO, entry will be FREE on the night.

Scotland Club International squad to play France: Fraser Harkness (Selkirk), Fraser Thomson (Melrose), Malcolm Clapperton (Boroughmuir), Jamie Hunter (Ayr), James King (Melrose), Callum Anderson (Melrose), Andrew MacMahon (Currie), Scott Wight (Melrose), Richard Snedden (Currie), Alan Dymock (Heriots), Gregor Wood (Watsonians), Gordon Reid (Ayr), Scott Burnett (Heriots), Alastair Hamilton (Currie), Alan Brown (Dundee), Damien Kelly (Ayr), Scott Sutherland (Ayr), Rory McKay (Hawks), John Dalziel CAPTAIN (Melrose), Mark Cairns (Currie), Paul Burke (Ayr), Ross Weston (Currie)

The starting XV will be named next week…

 Future fixtures;
 Friday 19 March – Ireland v Scotland club international (Donnybrook, kick-off 7pm)

Up for a Cup?

With six games left in the season and it looking increasingly like the title race is one being run by two horses one could be excused for looking beyond league proceedings. Stew Mel, I’m sure, would love to forget about league duties! Even the Cup looks to have become less of factor in premier clubs thinking. My brother and I could argue for hours about this. Sure it is still a huge event and obviously it is a massive honour to end your season on the big pitch at Murrayfield, but with fewer teams (Premier 1,2 and 3 only) competing for the Cup it can take less effort over a season to get there. If you win one game you’re into the quarter finals. So what is the result of this?

Suddenly more eyes are turning towards the British and Irish Cup. This season has been given more significance for certain amateurs because they have had an opportunity to measure themselves against professional players. Having played in a couple of games in the B&I Cup with Heriot’s I have enjoyed it but in some facets of the game, not all, it is difficult to compete with full time professionals. Playing against Coventry, a team that at the time of our game was complaining of over training with two sessions a day, four days a week, we competed in terms of skill, creativity and endeavour. Where we fell down was that we simply weren’t as big as our opposition, or as ‘collision-drilled’. This is to say that we weren’t able to stop the constant pounding of a massive English rucking game. This, it seems, will continue to afflict any amateur team facing a mature pro counterpart.

While both club teams have been competitive, Ayr winning against Rotherham and Heriot’s running Nottingham close, it is evident that Scottish club players are capable of out playing full time opposition. However, it is no great shock that Scotland’s player base has the depth of a teaspoon. If rumours are to be believed then the SRU fully intends to increase Scottish participation in the B&I Cup to four teams. How could teams, by definition, of less quality than the top two teams in Prem 1 be as competitive? There just aren’t enough players in our country. In order to compete with Welsh, Irish and, in particular, English teams we definitely don’t have enough monsters. So what should we do to contend on four fronts in the B&I Cup?

If you are a fan of club rugby most of you will be effing and blinding at your screen (much as if you were watching yet  another rolling maul from Munster in the HC). The majority, it appears, want a return of the district teams. And why not?! If you want better players in certain positions for one team, pick from the best nearby. If the current league finishes the way it is now then the top four will comprise of a representative from the North (Dundee), the South (Melrose), the East (Currie) and the West (Ayr), anyway, showing how combative each region already is.

If the Scotland Club International has shown us anything it’s that amateur players relish the opportunity to play as near as they can get to their dream level:  with a thistle on their chest. A lucky few have also propelled themselves into the professional ranks via the Club International. The same could happen through the districts. Surely the ultimate aim of teams like the Club International is to provide Scotland with more potential internationalists. If there is, say, a quality young player at West of Scotland who is never seen by Sean Lineen but could make the step up to pro rugby then they may never get the chance to prove themselves, more than once, at a higher level while Ayr and Ayr alone represent the West in the B&I Cup. Let players prove themselves. Sure there will be inter club politics but there always is anyway. There may be grumblings from the National Academy but just let Academy guys and unused  pros play for the region of the club they are drafted to.

 What harm can bringing back the districts do? If I was certain to finish mid-table with my club and no prospects of a Club International cap I would be crying out for a chance to play district rugby. Hell, if I was getting relegated I’d still want a district call!

Prem 1 round-up

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Edinburgh Accies 5-29 Currie
at Raeburn Place

Edinburgh Accies: S Moffat, M Coupar, G Douglas, R Browne, C Dickie, R Bonner, J Letham, D McLeod, M Strachan, L Niven, E Stuart, M Stevens, D Teague, T Drennan, G Campbell.
Replacements Used: S Patience, D Wright, R Snape, P Arnold, G Peoples.
Currie: G White, W Moala, C Kinloch, A MacMahon, S Forrest, J Smith, R Snedden, J Cox, N Scobie, A Hamilton, A Adam, R Wilson, S Burton, J Thomson, R Weston.
Replacements Used: A Reekie, G Scott, M Cairns, S Walker, I Downie.

Scoring Summary
Edinburgh Accies Try: Letham.
Currie Tries: Hamilton, Penalty, Weston, Moala, Wilson. Cons: Smith (2).
SRB Man of the Match: R Weston

Heriot’s 28-16 Melrose
at Goldenacre

Heriot’s: J Alston; C Goudie, M Nimmo, R Mill, A Douglas; R Hutton, G Wilson; W Blacklock, S Burnett, M Welch P Eccles, P OConnor, J Syme, C Fusaro, M Lee.
Replacements Used: F Gillies, JP Ward, C Osazuwa, S Dewar, G Rutherford
Melrose: F Thomson; C Anderson, J Murray, J King, B Allen; S Wight, S McCormick; A Gillie, R Ferguson, K Cooney, G Dodds, G Elder, J Dalzell, N McTaggart, R Miller.
Replacements Used: W Mitchell, P Southern, B Runciman, C Jackson, A Dodds.

Scoring Summary
Heriot’s Tries: Goudie, Douglas 2. Cons: Wilson 2.
Melrose Try: Mitchell. Con: Wight. Pens: Wight 3.
SRB Man of the Match: M Lee

Watsonians 16-13 Dundee
at Myreside

Watsonians: M Ker; G Somerville, D Brown, C Sorbie, A Rowe; J Forbes, J Blackwood; D O’Connell, G Wood, K Coertze, M Rennie, T Weizman, J Pelter, H Grant, G Callander.
Replacements Used: C Masson, G Scott, N Tunnah, M Henderson, N Montgomery.
Dundee: A Horton; M Smith, H Duthie, L Graham, R Lemon; B Jones, A Dymock; N Dymock, J Clark, A Brown, C Cumming, R Hawkins, R Gray, S McKee, G Ryan.
Replacements Used: S Dreyer, M Brown.

Scoring Summary
Watsonians Tries: Grant, Ker. Pens: Forbes 2.
Dundee Try: Duthie. Pens: Jones 2. Con: Horton.
SRB Man of the Match: H Grant

West of Scotland 34-25 Selkirk
at Burnbrae

West of Scotland: C David; A Park, P Murchie, J Kerr, R Dalgleish; C Thwaites, M McConnell; E McLaren, G Bulloch, C Johnston, M Jenkinson, R McAlpine, J Walker, D Young, G Fisken.
Replacements Used: D McKenna, R Kelso, A Kennedy, G Dempsey.
Selkirk: F Harkness; D Clapperton, S Hendrie, R Nixon, L Jones; G Craig, M McVie; G Paterson, D Grieve, M Murray, R Aglen, S Willett, N Darling, C Johnston, A Renwick.
Replacements Used: D Moussa, J Smyth, S Forrest, R Taylor.

Scoring Summary
West of Scotland Tries: McLaren 2, Young 2, Fisken. Cons: Davis 3. Pen: Davis.
Selkirk Tries: Murray, Hendrie, Harkness, Moussa. Con: Hendrie. Pen: Hendrie.
SRB Man of the Match: D Young

Boroughmuir 8-19 Glasgow Hawks
at Meggetland

Boroughmuir: S Ruddick; R Cairns, M Clapperton, G Blackhall, E Mills; G Cottrell, C Cusiter; F Lait, S McMurchy, B Ross, G Scott, N Patrick, M Stalley, J Doubleday, E Mathieson.
Replacements Used: J Va’a, L Brinck, P Cronin, S McGee, M Hare.
Glasgow Hawks: C Shaw; R Hair, I Noble, G Harkness, K Gossman; D Weir, C Gossman; G Strain, E Milligan, N Cox, C Kerr, A Kirkland, R Hamilton, R McKay, G Strang.
Replacements Used: J Stafford, R Niven, J MacLay, P Jericevich, M Adamson.

Scoring Summary
Boroughmuir Try: Lait. Pen: Blackhall.
Glasgow Hawks Try: Kerr. Con: Weir. Pens: Weir (3) Adamson.
SRB Man of the Match: D Weir

SRB Game of the Weekend:
Ayr 66-15 Stewart’s-Melville

at Millbrae

Well I was right about one thing: this was a hell of a game! It’s not every weekend you see 13 tries. However, my call of a close game seemed not to reach those in Ayr as the forwards ran riot with ball in hand. Stew Mel played rugby (they always do) but seemed to struggle with Ayr’s physicality. Stew Mel don’t have long to accrue more points and it’s getting close to squeeky bum time for both these teams.

Ayr: D Steele; S Manning, M Stewart, R Curle, J McClung; F Climo, J Hunter; G Reid, P MacArthur, G Sykes, D Kelly, S Sutherland, P Burke, A Dunlop, G Tippett.
Replacements Used: S Fenwick, S Adair, S Nimmo, C Taylor, A J MacFarlane.
Stewart’s-Melville: R Borthwick; A Cox, H Lingard, C Marshall, L Steele; S Ker, R Paterson; A Edmonstone, S Blackwood, R Merrilees, B Leathes, S Brewster, B Tweedie, L Calder, P Hendry.
Replacements Used: A Statham, C Mackintosh, J Kynoch, R Sutherland, H Boisseau.

Scoring Summary
Ayr Tries: P Burke (3), R Curle(2) D Steele, S Fenwick, A Wilson, D Kelly, F Climo. Conversions: Climo (8).
Stewart’s-Melville Tries: B Tweedie, P Hendry, B Leathes.
SRB Man of the Match: P Burke

Un Sac Mélangé

Edinburgh 9-7 Stade Francais
at Murrayfield

Mossy once again picked up all the points in what despite the low score was a fairly enterprising display from the home team. Jim Thompson – who must have been emotionally all over the place after the minutes applause for his grandfather the late Bill McLaren – was probably the standout back for me, although it was also hard to argue against Greg Laidlaw’s MoM performance at scrum-half that saw him dart Edinburgh seriously close to the Stade line on a couple of occasions. Jim Hamilton was very industrious for a man of his size and seems to have upped his workrate in the loose considerably. I reckon it could force a tricky decision for Robbo as to the make-up of his pack against France with Al Kellock, Richie Gray and Nathan Hines in good form too. Special mention should also go to returning vagabonds of various descriptions: Malkovich was able to conduct one of his darting runs but with Edinburgh’s new look back row in support he didn’t actually turn the ball over. On the opposition team, Hugo battled valiantly at scrum-half providing a (mostly) crisp service and his new-found versatility may see him on to the bench for Scotland at the very least. Good to see Simon Taylor back from injury too for the last twenty, he seemed to be relishing taking on his old teammates at his preferred position of Number 8 and must have been vaguely perturbed to see a small ginger openside filling the shirt he held for so long. Back in his day they used to work around the Number 8 with Hoggy, Callam and Taylor all competing. These days it is the 7 shirt that hold the embarrassment of riches.

Edinburgh: Paterson, Robertson, Cairns, De Luca, Thompson, Godman, Laidlaw, Traynor, Kelly, G. Cross, MacLeod, J. Hamilton, MacDonald, Rennie, R. Grant.
Replacements Used: Webster for Paterson (52), Houston for De Luca (41), Jacobsen for Traynor (64), Ford for Kelly (52), C. Hamilton for MacLeod (64), Newlands for Rennie (33). Not Used: Young, Samson.

Stade Francais: Beauxis, Gasnier, Messina, Bousses, Camara, Mieres, Southwell, Roncero, Szarzewski, Gerber, Palmer, Pape, Haskell, M. Bergamasco, Leguizamon.
Replacements Used: Bastareaud for Bousses (47), Slimani for Roncero (66), Kayser for Szarzewski (50), Ledesma for Gerber (58), Taylor for M. Bergamasco (52). Not Used: Vigouroux, Barraud, M. Bergamasco.

Scoring Summary
Edinburgh: Pens: Paterson 3.
Stade Francais: Try: Pape; Con: Beauxis.

Biarritz 41-20 Glasgow
at Stade Aguilera

Glasgow played some excellent stuff for 60 minutes, scoring one of the tries of the tournament in the process and putting the expected home victory in serious doubt. With the impressive Richie Gray going off at half time, the under-powered pack was then obliterated by substitutions as the strong Biarritz bench took serious advantage of Glasgow’s second string deficiencies. Sadly Biarritz prop Campbell Johnston is not from Jedburgh – he has an All Black cap, just another antipodean whose parents came over all nostalgic when dishing out the names. Pluses for Scotland though: Thom Evans looks back on form, Low, Kellock, Cusiter and Parks seem to have maintained theirs going into the Six Nations (just keep Dan away from the high ball/pitch) and the three Bs back row was an infuriatingly dominant force at the breakdown for most of the match. Minuses for Scotland: on this display, the second string just aren’t good enough. To be fair though, this is the second string that Glasgow have had for a while and the young players leap-frogging through (Gray, Jackson) look like they will be good enough given game time which must come soon.

Biarritz: P Couet-Lannes; T Ngwenya, A Mignardi, L Tranier, I Bolakoro; V Courrent, Y Lesgourgues; E Coetzee, B August, M Moala, P Taele, J Thion (capt), M Lund, T Hall, I Harinordoquoy.
Replacements Used: Balshaw for Couet-Lannes (66), Hunt for Lesgourgues (54), Hughes for Coetzee (71), Terrain for August (71), Johnstone for Moala (45), Carizza for Taele-Pvihi (67), Alaxndre for Hall (70).
Glasgow: B Stortoni; R Dewey, M Evans, G Morrison, T Evans; D Parks, C Cusiter; J Welsh, D Hall, M Low, R Gray, A Kellock (capt), K Brown, J Barclay, J Beattie.
Replacements Used: O’Hare for Dewey (56), Jackson for Parks (64), McMillan for Cusiter (65), Tkachuk for Welsh (61), Thomson for Hall (59), Turner for Low (41), Eddie for Beattie (59).

Scoring Summary
Biarritz Tries: Coetzee, Ngwenya, pen try, Lesgourgues. Cons: Courrent 3. Pens: Courrent 5.
Glasgow Tries: T Evans, Cusiter. Cons: Parks 2. Pen: Parks 2

Blair Sees Red (and Green)

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The Red hand, that is, and the green of money. The Scotsman have a story that Edinburgh scrum-half Mike Blair is being offered somewhere in the region of £300,000 a year to move to Ulster, whose current scrum half Isaac Boss is rumoured to be headed to Leinster. Good move or bad? While Edinburgh have in recent months been a little stifled in attack and probably miss Mike’s leadership in midfield, I would still probably say “good” move. Greg Laidlaw has improved massively this season in the period Blair has been injured, and though a little bit of a mentalist at the moment, Ross Samson looks a good option for the future. By leaving, Blair would be getting game time at a high level and in a decent team, but he would also be allowing our younger players to come through and play more regularly at the same high level. Although he’s been a faithful servant to Edinburgh, look at the positives Chris Cusiter got from his time in Perpignan. If it could bring back the form that saw him nominated for IRB player of the year, a change could do Blair good.

PS I’ve just realised the headline could be seen as a dig at his colour-blindness, sorry Mike, unintentional!

Premier 1 games this weekend

Games on:

Edinburgh Accies – Currie
at Raeburn Place (ko 2pm)

Boroughmuir – Glasgow Hawks
at Meggetland (ko 3pm)

Watsonians – Dundee High
at Myreside (ko 3pm)

Heriot’s – Melrose
at Goldenacre (ko 2pm)

West of Scotland – Selkirk
at Burnbrae (ko 2pm pitch inspection at 9am- check www.westofscotlandfc.co.uk for details)

SRB Game of the Weekend: Ayr – Stewart’s Melville
at Millbrae (ko 3pm)

Ayr are back in action after a week off and are looking to maintain their title challenge. Meanwhile, Stew Mel are hoping to avenge last weeks touch-and-go 11 point defeat to West. Having run Ayr close last time out at Inverleith this should be a lot more competitve than some would think. Expect a confrontation from the first whistle.

Players to watch: Stew Mel’s Hayden Lingard and Ayr’s Mark Stewart

Scotland Six Nations Squad 2010

Forwards: John Barclay, Johnnie Beattie, Kelly Brown (all Glasgow Warriors), Alasdair Dickinson (Gloucester), Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Richie Gray, Dougie Hall (both Glasgow Warriors), Jim Hamilton (Edinburgh), Nathan Hines (Leinster), Allan Jacobsen (Edinburgh), Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors), Scott Lawson (Gloucester), Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors), Alan MacDonald (Edinburgh), Euan Murray (Northampton Saints), Alasdair Strokosch (Gloucester)

Backs: Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors), Simon Danielli (Ulster), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh), Max Evans, Thom Evans (Glasgow Warriors), Phil Godman (Edinburgh), Alex Grove (Worcester), Ruaridh Jackson (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Lamont (Scarlets), Rory Lawson (Gloucester), Graeme Morrison (Glasgow Warriors), Chris Paterson (Edinburgh), Dan Parks (Glasgow Warriors) and Hugo Southwell (Stade Francais).

The 30 man squad breaks down as follows:

Glasgow: 13
Edinburgh: 7
Gloucester: 4
Other Exiles: 6

All of which probably reflects Glasgow’s dominance in the league and 1872 Cup so far this season.

Dan Parks is back in, along with uncapped Weege legends in the making Ruaridh Jackson and Richie Grey. No place for the other Richie, Vernon, who is unavailable for selection along with Hoggy and Jason White, all because of injury. And presumably Rory Lamont as well, though he seems to have disappeared into a news black hole.* Some players possibly close to featuring would have been the likes of Ospreys wing Nikki Walker, Glasgow prop Jon Welsh or co-captain Mike Blair who has not recovered from his ankle injury in time to get some form together. Blair, Welsh, Jim Thompson and Ross Rennie have all been invited to attend the training camp though. Personally I think given his form this season Roddy Grant is unlucky not to have made the squad, as is Ben Cairns. While presumably Cusiter continues as captain, I wonder if secondary captaincy will be given to Rory Lawson to continue the two scrum-halves model or whether Kellock who filled in admirably in the gutsy win over Australia will be given a shot. And does this mean Hugooooooooo is the third scrum-half in the squad?

*UPDATE: read the BBC article and Rory Lamont may join up with the squad assuming his survival of a club game for Toulon next week.

Bill McLaren 1923-2010

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As Al said to me earlier, it was a bit of a travesty the man was never knighted with or without the efforts of the accompanying Facebook campaign that brought him back into the public consciousness briefly last year. Sad too that he was never capped, TB having put paid to his promising playing career. But let us not dwell on negatives.

For so many of us raised on wintry February mornings watching the Five Nations on the telly, Bill McLaren will forever be remembered as the voice of rugby – always quick to conjure up a bizarre Scots or animal-related metaphor to describe a player. I never met the man, but I did briefly meet his wife once on the back pitches of Murrayfield after he had been commentating on an international late in his career, she said he had just had “a pretty good game”. I think it a fitting measure of his famed professional approach to his work to be described in the same terms as the players he watched, commentated on, coached and raised. Our thoughts are with all of Mr McLaren’s family and friends at this time.

A rugby professional long before the game was, off to the big rugby pitch in the sky – the game down here remains richer for his contribution.

Bill McLaren CBE, OBE and MBE
1923 – 2010

BBC Obituary

Killer B Leaves the Hive

Glasgow have confirmed rumours Kelly Brown is to leave them for Saracens at the end of the season, splitting up the infamous Killer Bs back row. However fellow “B” John Barclay has renewed his contract, which should keep Glasgow and Scotland fans happy – I imagine there was much interest in him. Brown has been in a rich vein of form for the Warriors recently but with a number of youngsters like Richie Vernon, James Eddie, Calum Forester et al pushing through for back row places – and in considering International level you have to factor in Edinburgh’s burgeoning back row talent too – Brown’s move allows them to develop in the limited spots we have up here, while still he’s playing top level rugby and trying to force his way back into the international team. Still, unless Mike the Blade moves to Worcester I won’t be able to make Blair vs Brown jokes anymore, which will be a relief to you.

In other good news, Gougy McGouge aka Stade Prop David Attoub has been handed a 70 week ban on top of Dupuy’s 23 week ban both for gouging Stephen Ferris. Good enough for him, I say.